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Nick Hacko · 2 May 2007, 11:25 AM

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dman · 2 May 2007, 11:31 AM

Was there no estimate agreed to? If something gets changed without prior approval somebody is either ignorant or seriously screwed up.

mikey · 2 May 2007, 11:33 AM

did you really need to send in for service?

C.J. · 2 May 2007, 11:33 AM

I don't even know what to say

C.J. · 2 May 2007, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mikey

did you really need to send in for service?

dman · 2 May 2007, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by C.J.

LMAO! LOL!

Nick Hacko · 2 May 2007, 11:44 AM

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dman · 2 May 2007, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

Unfortunately when I got it it was already too late... I was bypassed.
The original owner decided to put his faith in hands of the Mighty Crown.
Rest assured I did everything humanly possible to prevent disaster but as I've said it was already too late.

Gotcha. That is too bad m8.

pcarson · 2 May 2007, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

Unfortunately when I got it it was already too late... I was bypassed.
The original owner decided to put his faith in hands of the Mighty Crown.
Rest assured I did everything humanly possible to prevent disaster but as I've said it was already too late.

Oh, the humanity...

Nick Hacko · 2 May 2007, 12:25 PM

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mlb · 2 May 2007, 12:31 PM

mrbieler · 2 May 2007, 01:08 PM

God forbid anyone want to keep an old watch fresh and usable. Damn things weren't built to sit in a safe.

Nick Hacko · 2 May 2007, 02:05 PM

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Gedanken · 2 May 2007, 02:11 PM

Nick, what was the condition of the watch before the owner sent it in? What would you have done with it?

I think it's a bit shortsighted of RSC to just change all those parts without thought to how it might affect the watch's value - surely they must be aware of how much it's worth unaltered?

JJ Irani · 2 May 2007, 03:03 PM

This thread is so damned tragic, it needs a thick BLACK border all around it!!

Nick Hacko · 2 May 2007, 03:15 PM

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mrbieler · 2 May 2007, 03:28 PM

Gedanken, I swear to God it's hard to bite my tongue on this one....

leopardprey · 2 May 2007, 05:24 PM

Maybe some people do not care about the value of the watch or historical value, they have been wearing the watch and just want it updatednad running well again so it can get back on their wrist so they can use.

nko51 · 2 May 2007, 10:02 PM

Watch looks good to me! what is the fuss all about!

Flyjet601 · 2 May 2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

Emotions aside, original unaltered DRSD with box and papers and
nicely aged dial could be worth US$ 25,000. A raped one $8-12K.

This is not one-off case. In addition to 'standard service' 5513's are regularly returned with new gloss dial - an added bonus.

..a raped one

Am I missing something here

jac67 · 3 May 2007, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

Homage to Doble Red Seadweller.
Rest in peace my dear friend!
Photo of an original and unaltered 1971. DRSD sent to AS for regular service
after it was returned with new bracelet, new bezel, new bezel insert, new hands, new crown. Ruined for ever, devalued beyond estimate.

Man. I'd be crying too!

That's why I GAVE Rolex a list of things NOT to changed, and got them to agree on them before I let them touch it.

That aside, they did a fantastic job on mine, just what I wanted. Then again, it was very sweet before the service.

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

Emotions aside, original unaltered DRSD with box and papers and nicely aged dial could be worth US$ 25,000.

I think one like that would be closer to US$30,000+.

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

A raped one $8-12K.

I think that's too low. Maybe with a white dial, but still too low, unless you are quoting "wholesale" prices. White 1665's are fetching US$8,000+.

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Originally Posted by Nick Hacko

For some strange reason the maker of this watch has totally different approach. My question is WHY ?

Why? Quite simply my friend, Rolex doesn't care about a watch's originality only its functionality! Their views are that a fully serviced Rolex should function and look like it did when new, even if that means "raping" them, and replacing original part like dials and hands with new ones.

It's a sad fact, I agree.

BTW, that looks like a nice Mk.II DRSD in your picture.

John.

3 May 2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jac67

Why? Quite simply my friend, Rolex doesn't care about a watch's originality only its functionality! Their views are that a fully serviced Rolex should function and look like it did when new, even if that means "raping" them, and replacing original part like dials and hands with new ones.

It's a sad fact, I agree.

Very true. Too bad Rolex does things this way instead of preserving their own heritage.

You had the right idea by getting them to agree not to kill it's value up front.

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Gedanken "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: Sir Location: Melbourne Watch: F-series SD Posts: 8,589	Nick, what was the condition of the watch before the owner sent it in? What would you have done with it? I think it's a bit shortsighted of RSC to just change all those parts without thought to how it might affect the watch's value - surely they must be aware of how much it's worth unaltered? __________________ You buy a Casio to make sure you're on time; you wear a Rolex because you don't have to be on time.

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leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Maybe some people do not care about the value of the watch or historical value, they have been wearing the watch and just want it updatednad running well again so it can get back on their wrist so they can use.

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