Should pitbulls be extinct?

[Ashley]

Originally Posted by valentine

calm down, sweetheart...I know its a touchy subject for you...but REMEMBER, just like tattoos, piercings, etc....some things just arent going to change as far as then being considered "okay"...there will always be conservatice people that are going to have a strong opinion on ANY topic...and we have to be OKAY with that...the first step in changing a stereotype is NOT to challenge those who oppose, but rather to SHOW them..but some people's minds cannot be changed..so we agree to disagree but we find SOME common ground and try not to make war over something silly... I KNOW there are people all over the world that disagree with what I do for a living..but regardless...I find common ground somewhere...and show them that I LOVE them as another human being, regardless...you know HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU ASH, and you know Im behind you 100 percent..but dont let others opinions get you so riled up...they are entitled to that opinion. let them have that much...and maybe...just maybe one day a pitbull will come lick them in the face and they may say...'hey...know what? i still dont like em...but THAT ONE is okay"...just gotta hope for the best. i miss ya, ash...

Thanks, Justin. You are a stand-up person.

[Safetrends]

I have a an attack cat does that count as being dangerous?

:r ofl:

[cosimo]

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

Yes sir.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...,2968033.story

I think this thread is symptomatic of many social ills in our society. That ill philosophy being, one group knowing better than another, and the right of that certian group to limit the rights of another.

Pitbulls? Great Danes? Poisonous fish? What about guard dogs? What about security guards with guns? What about everyday citizens with guns?

Owners should be held more accountable for the actions of their animals. Otherwise where do you end the limitation?

Our society has lost the concept of personal responsibility. If an owner served jail time for a dog attack, I think the "problem" would take care of itself.

The concept of personal responsibility has almost completely disappeared.

BTW, I think your avitar should be extinct.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by Ashley

No. They should not. If you do a research on pit bulls and my name, you will see a thread from April that pretty much divided the forum.
If you kill off pit bulls, kill off German Shepherds, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Boxers, and all other "mean-looking" dogs.
Ridiculous.

Thank you, Ashley, for being the voice of reason. What's disgusting is the ignorance that rears its ugly head every single time this topic comes up.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by Nicko

Why don't we euthanize the stupid owners that train their dogs to be mean, fight and kill! Sorry if I offended any dogs making this statement.

Now that's a good idea!

[Omega_Precision]

The pit bull has no place in the modern society. The breed was trained to bait bulls and kill. In my opinion, it's not wise to domesticate a breed that was meant to kill.

Would you pet a hungry poodle or a hungry Pit?.....all things being equal and lets say they were both treated poorly by the owner.

The pit bull is unpredictable in all circumstances and even more dangerous when raised by bad owners.....

[cosimo]

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

The pit bull has no place in the modern society. The breed was trained to bait bulls and kill. In my opinion, it's not wise to domesticate a breed that was meant to kill.

Would you pet a hungry poodle or a hungry Pit?.....all things being equal and lets say they were both treated poorly by the owner.

The pit bull is unpredictable in all circumstances and even more dangerous when raised by bad owners.....

The boxer,the english bulldog, the bull terrier (spuds Mckenzie, Target) were also bred for bull baiting.

There are alot of things that have no place in modern society, yet limiting further the right of the individual to choose is not the answer.

BTW, the standard poodle can weigh in at well over 90 pounds, I wouldnt pet either hungry, mal treated dog.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

The pit bull has no place in the modern society. The breed was trained to bait bulls and kill. In my opinion, it's not wise to domesticate a breed that was meant to kill.

Dachshunds were bred to hunt badgers. So by your argument, we should exterminate them?

[DSJ]

[onkyo]

Originally Posted by Kokyuryoku

I say shoot the owners not the dogs. Just my

x2.... I have met many very nice pitbulls always with good owners.

And then bad pitbulls with very bad owners.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

The pit bull has no place in the modern society. The breed was trained to bait bulls and kill. In my opinion, it's not wise to domesticate a breed that was meant to kill.

Would you pet a hungry poodle or a hungry Pit?.....all things being equal and lets say they were both treated poorly by the owner.

The pit bull is unpredictable in all circumstances and even more dangerous when raised by bad owners.....

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. It just happens to be wrong. I've owned pit bulls and know how great they are.

Have you?

[JBat]

Originally Posted by cosimo

The boxer,the english bulldog, the bull terrier (spuds Mckenzie, Target) were also bred for bull baiting.

There are alot of things that have no place in modern society, yet limiting further the right of the individual to choose is not the answer.

BTW, the standard poodle can weigh in at well over 90 pounds, I wouldnt pet either hungry, mal treated dog.

That's right.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by onkyo

x2.... I have met many very nice pitbulls always with good owners.

And then bad pitbulls with very bad owners.

And bad Poodles. And Labs. And German Shepherds. And Dachsunds. Etc, etc, etc.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by JBat

And bad Poodles. And Labs. And German Shepherds. And Dachsunds. Etc, etc, etc.

Leave my wife's dachsund out of this. It's a harmful hunting dog.

[JBat]

Originally Posted by 777

Leave my wife's dachsund out of this. It's a harmful hunting dog.

Adorable!

[B Square]

Originally Posted by JBat

Adorable!

X10

[Ashley]

Originally Posted by Omega_Precision

The pit bull has no place in the modern society. The breed was trained to bait bulls and kill. In my opinion, it's not wise to domesticate a breed that was meant to kill.

Would you pet a hungry poodle or a hungry Pit?.....all things being equal and lets say they were both treated poorly by the owner.

The pit bull is unpredictable in all circumstances and even more dangerous when raised by bad owners.....

I have experienced more mean poodles than pit bulls. They may look cuddly (to some, I'd rather cuddle with something that isn't a big fuzzball) but they can be mean, and very stubborn.

Why is it only pit bulls that you think should be mass executed? If it is because you value human life more than a dog's life, there have been many maulings by dogs other than pits. Like I said, the ever-popular, friendly, beloved golden lab attacked me and I have the stitches in my face to prove it. Any dog can go bad. Pit bulls just get the worst publicity.

[cosimo]

Originally Posted by 777

Leave my wife's dachsund out of this. It's a harmful hunting dog.

That dog looks like a killer!!! exterminate it before it develops tendencies! Peoples ankles are at risk!!

[CoopJr]

Originally Posted by cosimo

Our society has lost the concept of personal responsibility.
The concept of personal responsibility has almost completely disappeared.

BTW, I think your avitar should be extinct.

Sadly I must agree, it is almost lost. And I'm surprised that avatar is still allowed....but that's just me

[AWATCH]

I am on the fence on this one if I can explain. There are some animals out there that are more aggressive then others and should be owned or cared for only by more responsible people.
Lets remember that all animals are indeed animals and can turn on you. with proper care and responsible ownership any animal can be had.
One of the exotic pets that was in our family for over 30 years was a monkey, yes it could and would bite and could cause serious damage to its surroundings. As long as we had him he was a good and loyal family member and we were willing and able to take care of him and safeguard others from him. Owning this type of animal is like having a chain around ones leg because of the responsibility, but we were willing to take it on. He died after a long and healthy life of plain old age.

[CoopJr]

Originally Posted by JBat

And German Shepherds.

The only dog that ever bit me. The neighbors GSD ripped my right arm open at the tricep when I was kid. All I was doing was walking by the house.

The dog should have been contained...the lady that owned her was a lazy (_!_)

[pz93c]

Always wanted a dachsund.

Name it Lowrider.

[Taffi Abernathy]

Originally Posted by Bullyterrier

All terriers are killing machines...That's what they were bred for... to kill, your Jack Russels, Airdales even your West Highlands.
But where do you draw the line? In the UK, along with a lot of Europe, the American Pit Bull Terrier is already being fazed out as they have to be sterilized. Along with any Pit Bull type of dog, and this means if you have a large cross breed dog with a large head it can be classed as a Pit Bull type and destroyed.

Even if you destroy every Pit Bull, the half brains that have them as attack dogs will use some other large breed dog, and then start cross breeding them with the nastiest tempered dogs they can find.

Have a look at Cesar Millan's Pit Bulls, which were to be destroyed for being dangerous dogs, and you will see soft, gentle dogs that live alongside many other dogs of different breeds and sizes. Why because they get plenty of exercise and are treated like dogs by a responsible owner.

I myself have learned some valuable tips Cesar Millan but nonetheless many veterinary associations and schools frown upon his methods. At the University of Pennsylvania Veterinary School, most of the vets have been very vocal about his using an excess of force to train dogs. They have written to National Geographic in an attempt to apprise them of the dangers of Millan's training methods which often incorporate questionable tactics such as the use of choke chains. Many veterinary institutions want his show cancelled but it appears it has only grown in popularity.

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by pz93c

Always wanted a dachsund.

Name it Lowrider.

That's a good one! I'll remember that one for next time.

My wife named hers "Ariel", but I nicknamed it Daisy, since I had a Golden/Chow mix named Roscoe (as in Sheriff Roscoe P. Coltrain). The nickname stuck.

I nicknamed the neighbor's dog "Cletus".

You might be a redneck IF.... you name your pets for the characters from Dukes of Hazard.

[rolexgiants]

Originally Posted by JBat

Well, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it. It just happens to be wrong. I've owned pit bulls and know how great they are.

Have you?

well..... all i can say is willie mays was not the best player of all time.... lol...lol...lol.... just trying to break the tension here.....

[Ashley]

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

well..... all i can say is willie mays was not the best player of all time.... lol...lol...lol.... just trying to break the tension here.....

When I read your post, I was thinking "Billy Mays" and I was like... "What did he play? Was he famous for anything other than selling stuf on infomercials?"

Then I actually READ what you said

[BarkMaster]

Originally Posted by rolexgiants

just trying to break the tension here.....

You mean my picture didn't???

[sea-dweller]

I would have to believe that pit bulls get a lot of "bad press". I've met some who were very sweet and I've met some so-called "sweet" dogs (labs, jack russells, etc) who have generally "good press" who were just awfully behaved.

[HYDROMAROC]

Originally Posted by snow_rocks

This thread is the same as POLITICS!
Should not be discussed at all, because of strong opinions on both sides!
Sorry.
Should be

If that's the case, there should be no "open discussion thread" section. Don't want to offend ANYONE...

[Widows Son]

I've had sporting dogs all my life. Setters, and Labs mostly. Never hunted with them, and never trained them. My setter would do the classic "Point" on occasion when we were out walking in the fields. My Lab will dive in freezing water and retrieve sticks, swim back to me, and drop them at my feet. He will do this to exhaustion. Hmmmmm...anyone here like to argue that some breeds are prone to certain traits even without any training????Maybe they do it without much thought???Hmmmm...Maybe a Pit Bull instinctively latches onto something and won't let go?????Sometimes that a child's arm, or a mail man's leg. Doesn't seem real difficult to understand, at least not to me.