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cwilson13 · 27 November 2014, 04:43 AM

I am drawn to this 1665 double red M111. It's patina and age speak to me for some reason. Its on Jacek's site.

http://www.hqmilton.com/watches/1972...mark-iii-dial1

Yes, I know the dial is everything (or most everything)...and this one has a scar. I probably wouldn't spend the money for a prime example but is this one just to much of a compromise?

Should I stop window shopping and move along, or consider a trade against my 1680 (plus a chunk of cash)?

Pretty sure I know the right answer (no) but confirmation is always helpful! Let me know what you think.

Here is my 1680 just so you know what I would have to give up.

Im Lauf der Zeit · 27 November 2014, 05:03 AM

The listing says the scratched dial has been "darkened by a sharpie." Condition is of a paramount importance. Talk yourself out of this and enjoy your 1680.

jdmi32 · 27 November 2014, 05:05 AM

As condition is tops on the list for me, I would not give up your 1680 towards that particular DRSD.

Vincent65 · 27 November 2014, 05:07 AM

no!

cwilson13 · 27 November 2014, 05:29 AM

Ok, ok.

I knew it, but needed to be yelled at!!

Thanks.

cwilson13 · 27 November 2014, 05:32 AM

Whats the price range for a solid example (not mint or safe queen)?

Upper $20s?

CrownMe · 27 November 2014, 06:19 AM

NO WAY. not even close. Your red makes that Double red look bad imo

RC2 · 27 November 2014, 06:24 AM

I would keep red sub. Go only for the best condition watches. That scar would drive me nuts

RC2 · 27 November 2014, 06:25 AM

I wrote my response before I saw the above.

SubKing · 27 November 2014, 06:26 AM

your 1680 is tops.. The double red looks great until I read the sharpie comment. That is a BIG NO for me as well.

If you're looking for no B&P's, just the watch, I would say 25k seems about right; more or less, again, depending on condition and minor flaws.

Robbyvm · 27 November 2014, 06:28 AM

Walk away...
You can find better even @ Jacek's, just ask him to look out for one

colpol · 27 November 2014, 06:54 AM

too much cash for the watch with that dial

The smallest things can ruin something - I think within a very short period of time that dial would drive you nuts

cwilson13 · 27 November 2014, 12:16 PM

I agree. Thanks all. I knew it was a no go, but liked its character.

However, my eye would always track right to the scar.

foodle · 27 November 2014, 12:32 PM

No way. Huge scratch is a deal breaker.

Unless you're a stickler for B&P, just wait for a good example without B&P for about $25k.

Franks07 · 27 November 2014, 01:24 PM

Good decision. Sharpie...really?
Run a Forest run...

007Sub · 27 November 2014, 01:59 PM

"sharpie"

The_Walrus · 27 November 2014, 04:58 PM

You have answered your own question. No doubt I would take your red over the DRSD.

27 November 2014, 06:24 AM	#8
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	I would keep red sub. Go only for the best condition watches. That scar would drive me nuts __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

27 November 2014, 06:25 AM	#9
RC2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Rich Location: NC Watch: Rolex 1675 Posts: 2,359	I wrote my response before I saw the above. __________________ Rich Member of Nylon Nation Red Sox Nation Instagram watchguy97

27 November 2014, 01:59 PM	#16
007Sub "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Greg Location: USA Watch: 5514 Posts: 1,630	"sharpie" __________________ @true_patina @true.dome

27 November 2014, 05:03 AM	#2
Im Lauf der Zeit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: NYC Posts: 1,000	The listing says the scratched dial has been "darkened by a sharpie." Condition is of a paramount importance. Talk yourself out of this and enjoy your 1680.

27 November 2014, 05:05 AM	#3
jdmi32 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Real Name: Ky Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: 16570 Posts: 2,362	As condition is tops on the list for me, I would not give up your 1680 towards that particular DRSD.

27 November 2014, 05:07 AM	#4
Vincent65 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Switzerland Posts: 14,297	no!

27 November 2014, 05:29 AM	#5
cwilson13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,492	Ok, ok. I knew it, but needed to be yelled at!! Thanks.

27 November 2014, 05:32 AM	#6
cwilson13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,492	Whats the price range for a solid example (not mint or safe queen)? Upper $20s?

27 November 2014, 06:19 AM	#7
CrownMe "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Kevin Location: Maryland Watch: My Open 6 Posts: 3,433	NO WAY. not even close. Your red makes that Double red look bad imo

27 November 2014, 06:26 AM	#10
SubKing "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: USA Watch: where do i start?? Posts: 3,254	your 1680 is tops.. The double red looks great until I read the sharpie comment. That is a BIG NO for me as well. If you're looking for no B&P's, just the watch, I would say 25k seems about right; more or less, again, depending on condition and minor flaws.

27 November 2014, 06:28 AM	#11
Robbyvm "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,239	Walk away... You can find better even @ Jacek's, just ask him to look out for one

27 November 2014, 06:54 AM	#12
colpol "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,848	too much cash for the watch with that dial The smallest things can ruin something - I think within a very short period of time that dial would drive you nuts

27 November 2014, 12:16 PM	#13
cwilson13 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,492	I agree. Thanks all. I knew it was a no go, but liked its character. However, my eye would always track right to the scar.

27 November 2014, 12:32 PM	#14
foodle "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: USA Posts: 189	No way. Huge scratch is a deal breaker. Unless you're a stickler for B&P, just wait for a good example without B&P for about $25k.

27 November 2014, 01:24 PM	#15
Franks07 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 729	Good decision. Sharpie...really? Run a Forest run...

27 November 2014, 04:58 PM	#17
The_Walrus "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: George Location: Sydney Watch: 5513 Posts: 1,104	You have answered your own question. No doubt I would take your red over the DRSD.

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