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Old 12 August 2008, 03:47 PM   #1
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Watchwinder Turns per day

I have read that a rolex day date needs 650 tpd on a watchwinder

Some high end winders have minimum seetings of 800 tpd and 1100 tpd
will this cause stress on the clutch that prevents overwinding?
Are these higher tpd bad for the watch over the long term?
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Old 12 August 2008, 04:51 PM   #2
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Short term, no not at all, long term, IMO yes! A winder is meant to similate wrist wear, and while the tube will slip into the barrel to prevent overwinding and damage to the main spring, the overwinding will never allow your watch to wind down, again not a problem. What you will expirience is that your watch will loose time on a winder that is over winding the watch. A watch with high amplitude will run slow, with low amplitude will run fast, a proper winder will allow the watch to expirience both of these and keep better time while off the wrist.

In the long run, any winder is just increasing the wear on the movement which will result in higher long term service costs. Don't believe me, next time you visit your watchmaker, ask him/her what king of winder they have at home!
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Old 12 August 2008, 05:43 PM   #3
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I have read that a rolex day date needs 650 tpd on a watchwinder

Some high end winders have minimum seetings of 800 tpd and 1100 tpd
will this cause stress on the clutch that prevents overwinding?
Are these higher tpd bad for the watch over the long term?
Just think how many times the rotor would turn in say the average 12 hours daily wearing, a lot more than on any watch on a winder.And no it will not cause any stress on the clutch mechanism thats what its designed for.IMHO watchwinders are not necessary for watches with simple date complications,if it stops it only takes around 30 secs to wind and reset time date etc. Save your money put it toward another watch.
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Old 12 August 2008, 06:53 PM   #4
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I agree with Padi. If you only have date complication why subject the watch to running constantly. MY CSO and GMT go on the winder, because of the additional complications.
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Old 12 August 2008, 08:15 PM   #5
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Any winding on days you would otherwise NOT be wearing the watch is extra wear (pardon the pun). Whether this is negligible or not, you can debate. But, it IS wear...the mistake padi56 is making is saying there are only two options... wearing the watch, or putting it on the winder. I think what SLS is saying, is that there are times (and many of us do it) where the watch is not being worn, it's not on a winder, and the power has gone to zero so it is NOT running.
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Old 12 August 2008, 09:50 PM   #6
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Your Rolex cannot be overwound. The clutch prevents it from overwinding.
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Old 12 August 2008, 11:20 PM   #7
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I really don't understand what you mean by wear? I know of manny people who have watches 30 to 40 years or more and only have minor service upkeep. if they wear them every day 24/7 they could be experiencing way 0ver 1000 tpd. So if my watches are keeping excelent time would not keeping them on a winder for say 800 tpd just keep them steady and going? I have a regulater carrige clock that has been going for over 100 years with only a wind a week.
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Old 13 August 2008, 02:46 AM   #8
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Recommended settings of 650 is an average.... not an absolute.

If the minimum is 780 on your winder then the extra 130 turns probably won't amount to a hill of beans in the end..

So, I'm with padi on this one....it won't hurt anything because that is what the clutch was designed to do, but why use a winder at all if you are worried about extra wear...

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Old 15 July 2012, 03:37 PM   #9
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Recommended settings of 650 is an average.... not an absolute.

If the minimum is 780 on your winder then the extra 130 turns probably won't amount to a hill of beans in the end..

So, I'm with padi on this one....it won't hurt anything because that is what the clutch was designed to do, but why use a winder at all if you are worried about extra wear...

Sorry to dig this up out of the grave. I recently bought a winder that rotates up to two watches for two minutes (approximately 15 turns), then rests for six minutes and repeats. 1440 minutes per day means the watch has 180 rotation rounds with 15 turns per session, that's 2700 turn!!!

Now, I'm not worried about wear and would gladly consider wearing any of my two watches 24/7, or simulate it. But, would this "amount to a hill of beans in the end.."? There is one setting for winding non stop, 5 minutes in each direction. With approximately 7 turns per minute, 90 minutes of rotating non stop would be enough to have 650 tpd, should I consider manipulating this instead?
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Old 15 July 2012, 05:36 PM   #10
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Have a look here....

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Old 15 July 2012, 06:20 PM   #11
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Thanks but that wasn't the question. I know how many TPD my watches need but my winder doesn't have that setting. It turns at 2700 TPD. Should I turn it on for 8 hours a day (during sleep for example). Or set it to non stop for 90 minutes per day (to get 650 TPD)?
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Old 15 July 2012, 06:45 PM   #12
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Thanks but that wasn't the question. I know how many TPD my watches need but my winder doesn't have that setting. It turns at 2700 TPD. Should I turn it on for 8 hours a day (during sleep for example). Or set it to non stop for 90 minutes per day (to get 650 TPD)?
Given those two choices I would set it for 90 minutes a day.
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Old 15 July 2012, 06:48 PM   #13
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Given those two choices I would set it for 90 minutes a day.
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Old 15 July 2012, 06:56 PM   #14
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Thanks guys but do I need to take one of the two choices? How about choice number 3, ripping it at 2700 rounds per day!? :) Would that cause any damage to the watches?
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Old 15 July 2012, 09:43 PM   #15
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How accurate of time measurement should I expect from a Rolex Yachtmaster? I recently had it "overhauled" by Rolex and a use a watchwinder set to the proper specifications when not wearing it. My "everyday" watch is a Tag Heuer Formula 1 (sorry!). The Yachtmaster is 7 years young.
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