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Old 28 April 2020, 01:10 AM   #1
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GMT Bezel Lume Query

I was just flicking through the forum and noticed @Mario41s photo of his Batperson GMTIIc. This made me return to a thought I’ve been wrestling with for ages:

Wayyyy back in the day, reference 6542s had lumed bezels — a very logical addition to those of us who travel regularly and who yearn for such functionality.




When they brought out the 1675, the watch I now have, the switch to aluminium bezels presumably resulted in the lume being impossible.





And thus it remained until the 116710c came out.




Now, a lumed bezel is a very useful addition — especially for those of us who actually use the bezel for its intended purpose. Yet, surprisingly, lumed bezels of any description are fairly rare (the GS GMT not withstanding... I’d probably own one if it wasn’t 44mm and spring drive).





So, returning to the inspiration for this post, the open recess where the numbers of the ceramic bezel are milled:




Does anyone know why has Rolex not started to fill these mill-grooves with lume instead of platinum? And, if it’s not possible because they’re too exposed and fragile, my next question is why not create some mechanism that isn’t!

A photo of the ‘Tested Beyond Endurance’ bezel lume from the... Endurance to show that bezel lume can... well... endure:








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Old 28 April 2020, 01:22 AM   #2
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I agree that a ceramic lumed bezel will be awesome and is a conversation that has 100% already been had at Rolex SA.



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Old 28 April 2020, 01:29 AM   #3
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I was just flicking through the forum and noticed @Mario41s photo of his Batperson GMTIIc. This made me return to a thought I’ve been wrestling with for ages:

Wayyyy back in the day, reference 6542s had lumed bezels — a very logical addition to those of us who travel regularly and who yearn for such functionality.

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When they brought out the 1675, the watch I now have, the switch to aluminium bezels presumably resulted in the lume being impossible.




And thus it remained until the 116710c came out.




Now, a lumed bezel is a very useful addition — especially for those of us who actually use the bezel for its intended purpose. Yet, surprisingly, lumed bezels of any description are fairly rare (the GS GMT not withstanding... I’d probably own one if it wasn’t 44mm and spring drive).





So, returning to the inspiration for this post, the open recess where the numbers of the ceramic bezel are milled:



Does anyone know why has Rolex not started to fill these mill-grooves with lume instead of platinum? And, if it’s not possible because they’re too exposed and fragile, my next question is why not create some mechanism that isn’t!

A photo of the ‘Tested Beyond Endurance’ bezel lume from the... Endurance to show that bezel lume can... well... endure:







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Now the very first production GMT 6542s had Bakelite inserts now these inserts were quite fragile and prone to breakage.And some of these inserts and small number of watch dials were over the new AEC radiation rules so had to be withdrawn by Rolex.And today by useing words like Platinum and Gold in the ceramic type inserts make them sound very expencive for what in the real world is just a thin PVD type coating its called marketing which means today brainwashing.

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Old 28 April 2020, 06:06 AM   #4
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And some of these inserts and small number of watch dials were over the new AEC radiation rules so had to be withdrawn by Rolex.
Oh!! That’s interesting! I never knew they were recalled!


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Old 28 April 2020, 11:46 AM   #5
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Now the very first production GMT 6542s had Bakelite inserts now these inserts were quite fragile and prone to breakage.And some of these inserts and small number of watch dials were over the new AEC radiation rules so had to be withdrawn by Rolex.And today by useing words like Platinum and Gold in the ceramic type inserts make them sound very expencive for what in the real world is just a thin PVD type coating its called marketing which means today brainwashing.



Apparently, the dials were lumed with radium, but the bezels were lumed with Strontium-90.

Still just as dangerous, a pure beta-emitter with a dangerous decay product, Yttrium-90.

Apparently the "warm pride" Rolex felt about their GMT was just the effect of the ionizing radiation on the skin.

Is it safe to wear your Rolex? We finally have a scenario and an answer.
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Old 28 April 2020, 12:23 PM   #6
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I agree with you completely. I absolutely love the lumed bezel in my Pelagos. Rolex has the in-house knowledge on how to do it. Personally, I hope they give the Explorer II a lumed bezel when it inevitably gets a ceramic bezel. I don't see it for the GMT Master as it just seems too dressy to do so now. That's a more "tooly" feature, which isn't really the point of today's GMT Master.
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Old 28 April 2020, 01:32 PM   #7
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A loomed bezel would be cool
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Old 28 April 2020, 01:36 PM   #8
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I would love to see Rolex use lumed bezels for divers and GMTs. They've done it with the Tudor Pelagos after all.
I think we're seeing more lumed bezels overall these days, and the Blancpain FF (as per my avatar pic) has had one for years.
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Old 28 April 2020, 11:15 PM   #9
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I don't know, it doesn't appeal to me. I like them the way they are.
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