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roadcarver · 7 November 2006, 12:34 PM

I'm tempted to flip my 14060 for a 16600. Reason being is that the SD has no cyclops plus it has a date. Also after trying Roger's SD and the one at RDV, it was surprisingly light and comfortable!

On the flip side, no pun intended, the 14060 has a clean look. Don't know what to do... I also just got the 14060 serviced so don't want to really give it up.

I'm going to go to Van Rjkes this Friday along with Pete to check out pricing for used SDs.

May I get advice from y'all on what you'd do?

Thanks,

Vernon

Rockrolex · 7 November 2006, 12:45 PM

Let me throw this monkey wrench into your deliberations.

mike · 7 November 2006, 12:49 PM

Well, I think the SD has a clean utilitarian look in keeping with the "tool watch" tradition.
It's certainly a watch that has a special history and the 3135 movement is a rock hard piece of equiment.
I think barring a nice 5513 I'd be tempted to go for it.

C.J. · 7 November 2006, 12:50 PM

Go with what makes you smile

They're both great watches

Mrdi · 7 November 2006, 12:54 PM

pop off the cyclops

roadcarver · 7 November 2006, 01:06 PM

SD doesn't have any cyclops

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Originally Posted by Mrdi

pop off the cyclops

roadcarver · 7 November 2006, 01:08 PM

Thanks Mike, CJ for your thoughts. I have a feeling that I need to save up for an SD and keep the 14060.

Ed, you're not making it easy on me

C.J. · 7 November 2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

Thanks Mike, CJ for your thoughts. I have a feeling that I need to save up for an SD and keep the 14060.

Ed, you're not making it easy on me

They're both so similar though. Wouldn't you rather have one of that style and maybe a strap watch or something a little different?

wonghonchung · 7 November 2006, 02:13 PM

Don't go to Van Rijk. Both me and Roger can go on a very long rant about that, as Roger succinctly said they have a "No Chink Policy", which I frankly agree with, Anyways you will pay a lot more than you need to, and you will get ripped off if you trade in, they won't give you much for your 14060, but charge an exhorbitant amount for it when they sell it.

I recommend going on Timezone, you'll find a much better deal, and you'll get a lot more than you would from Van Rijk. Or I would recommend you go to Nezam's place.

roadcarver · 7 November 2006, 02:36 PM

Good idea, I'll drop by to visit Nezam's.

JJ Irani · 7 November 2006, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadcarver

I'm tempted to flip my 14060 for a 16600. Reason being is that the SD has no cyclops plus it has a date. Also after trying Roger's SD and the one at RDV, it was surprisingly light and comfortable!

On the flip side, no pun intended, the 14060 has a clean look. Don't know what to do... I also just got the 14060 serviced so don't want to really give it up.

I'm going to go to Van Rjkes this Friday along with Pete to check out pricing for used SDs.

May I get advice from y'all on what you'd do?

Thanks,

Vernon

Vernon,

The SD would be an excellent buy, but try not to take too big a hit on the no date Sub.

Good luck - JJ

jac67 · 7 November 2006, 10:41 PM

Hello Vernon

I love the SD as well as the no date Sub. Difficult question.

The best you can do is keep the Sub and then buy a SD funds permitting.

But if I had the choice of one it would definitely be the SD. COSC rated, date, no cyclops, HEV. It's got it all.

I don't know if we are allowed to, so moderators please delete this sentence if required. There's a guy on TURF called Stryke (real name Gil) who is the Forum Moderator who also sells a lot of new watches at great prices.

Hope this helps.

John.

padi56 · 8 November 2006, 12:17 AM

I would go along with Mike on this.

RogerF · 8 November 2006, 01:35 AM

Nezam has one in stock I beleive. Like Thomas said stay away from Van Riik, they have a no chinks policy there that really gets my blood boiling. I went in there with the full intention of spending $5000+ but was treated like a theif when my phone rang and I picked it up. The sales woman yelled at me to turn it off. I asked why and she said I could be setting them up to rob them. WTF?????? I later learned that they were robbed a few times before and now treat asians like that.

TNRonin · 8 November 2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by mike

Well, I think the SD has a clean utilitarian look in keeping with the "tool watch" tradition.
It's certainly a watch that has a special history and the 3135 movement is a rock hard piece of equiment.
I think barring a nice 5513 I'd be tempted to go for it.

My thoughts also. I traded my 2003 14060M for an 2000 SD. I didn't take a hit since it was a 6 yoa watch w/o a band. I haven't looked back. I liked the sub a bunch, but the SD just suits my needs and suits me better.

Mitch

8 November 2006, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerF

Nezam has one in stock I beleive. Like Thomas said stay away from Van Riik, they have a no chinks policy there that really gets my blood boiling. I went in there with the full intention of spending $5000+ but was treated like a theif when my phone rang and I picked it up. The sales woman yelled at me to turn it off. I asked why and she said I could be setting them up to rob them. WTF?????? I later learned that they were robbed a few times before and now treat asians like that.

Funny, when we were in there on the weekend Atomic's phone was ringing away and they didn't seem to mind.......

JJ Irani · 8 November 2006, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerF

Nezam has one in stock I beleive. Like Thomas said stay away from Van Riik, they have a no chinks policy there that really gets my blood boiling. I went in there with the full intention of spending $5000+ but was treated like a theif when my phone rang and I picked it up. The sales woman yelled at me to turn it off. I asked why and she said I could be setting them up to rob them. WTF?????? I later learned that they were robbed a few times before and now treat asians like that.

That is so bloody ridiculous!! I would NEVER go back to that place again!!

8 November 2006, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Avalon

Funny, when we were in there on the weekend Atomic's phone was ringing away and they didn't seem to mind.......

That's funny... but completely untrue.

When my phone rang (hutchman on the line) they asked me to leave as well... not the store entirely, just into their triple door 'air lock'.

I'm guessing if you've been robbed immediately after a cell phone call they're a little 'gun shy'. For the record, most La Swiss stores (run by asians) have a 'no munchie cake' policy.

SDman · 8 November 2006, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadcarver

I'm tempted to flip my 14060 for a 16600. Reason being is that the SD has no cyclops plus it has a date. Also after trying Roger's SD and the one at RDV, it was surprisingly light and comfortable!

On the flip side, no pun intended, the 14060 has a clean look. Don't know what to do... I also just got the 14060 serviced so don't want to really give it up.

I'm going to go to Van Rjkes this Friday along with Pete to check out pricing for used SDs.

May I get advice from y'all on what you'd do?

Thanks,

Vernon

Bro I would go for SD but you know me....I guess whatever you feel like but I can guarantee you they are both WATER PROOFFF!!!!

roadcarver · 8 November 2006, 04:07 AM

When they went to the triple buzz doors, I pretended that we were in a bio hazard facility, level 4

I even raised my arms.

No munchie cake policy at LaSwiss? I haven't seen them turn away those customers. Hmm.. is that why they kept e-mailing me to sit down and offer me coffee to view the Breitling collection cause I'm asian??

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Originally Posted by Atomic

That's funny... but completely untrue.

When my phone rang (hutchman on the line) they asked me to leave as well... not the store entirely, just into their triple door 'air lock'.

I'm guessing if you've been robbed immediately after a cell phone call they're a little 'gun shy'. For the record, most La Swiss stores (run by asians) have a 'no munchie cake' policy.

roadcarver · 8 November 2006, 04:08 AM

Looking at the SD again, it almost looks like an 14060 since the date window is small enough to make it look like a marker.

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Originally Posted by SDman

Bro I would go for SD but you know me....I guess whatever you feel like but I can guarantee you they are both WATER PROOFFF!!!!

8 November 2006, 04:11 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

When they went to the triple buzz doors, I pretended that we were in a bio hazard facility, level 4

I even raised my arms.

No munchie cake policy at LaSwiss? I haven't seen them turn away those customers. Hmm.. is that why they kept e-mailing me to sit down and offer me coffee to view the Breitling collection cause I'm asian??

Yeah.. it reminds me of the way you'd enter a submarine if you were a diver. LOL

I have negotiated with a La Swiss sales person for a discount to no avail, and yet I've seen asian guys walk in there, browse a bit and get offered a discount on the spot on SS sports models. I don't want to generalize but I've seen it twice there, and heard it once from a friend.

roadcarver · 8 November 2006, 04:24 AM

Damn, sorry John to hear that. I don't speak Chinese myself, but I think if a customer speaks to them in Chinese / Cantonese / Mandarin, they seem to befriend the sales person better. Usually offering cash would get them the deal.

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Originally Posted by Atomic

Yeah.. it reminds me of the way you'd enter a submarine if you were a diver. LOL

I have negotiated with a La Swiss sales person for a discount to no avail, and yet I've seen asian guys walk in there, browse a bit and get offered a discount on the spot on SS sports models. I don't want to generalize but I've seen it twice there, and heard it once from a friend.

8 November 2006, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

Damn, sorry John to hear that. I don't speak Chinese myself, but I think if a customer speaks to them in Chinese / Cantonese / Mandarin, they seem to befriend the sales person better. Usually offering cash would get them the deal.

No skin off my nose. I don't buy BNIB watches anyways.

Besides, LS had some dubious corporate practices that led to Rolex Canada pulling their distributorship.

Serves 'em right.

roadcarver · 8 November 2006, 04:29 AM

That's what they get for doing shady dealings! I guess that's why Omega pulled the plug on them too!

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Originally Posted by Atomic

No skin off my nose. I don't buy BNIB watches anyways.

Besides, LS had some dubious corporate practices that led to Rolex Canada pulling their distributorship.

Serves 'em right.

8 November 2006, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

That's what they get for doing shady dealings! I guess that's why Omega pulled the plug on them too!

Funny, cuz Birk's lost Rolex nationally because of having an unauthorized sale... they moved to La Swiss who lost distributorship for questionable business practises... who wants to step up nationally next?

People's? LOL

roadcarver · 8 November 2006, 04:38 AM

You made me spit out my coffee... .reading "People's".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atomic

Funny, cuz Birk's lost Rolex nationally because of having an unauthorized sale... they moved to La Swiss who lost distributorship for questionable business practises... who wants to step up nationally next?

People's? LOL

8 November 2006, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by roadcarver

You made me spit out my coffee... .reading "People's".

I can't think of any other national chain of jewellery stores.

8 November 2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Atomic

I can't think of any other national chain of jewellery stores.

Canadian Tire?

roadcarver · 8 November 2006, 08:28 AM

Walmart?

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Originally Posted by Avalon

Canadian Tire?

7 November 2006, 12:34 PM	#1
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Tempted to flip! I'm tempted to flip my 14060 for a 16600. Reason being is that the SD has no cyclops plus it has a date. Also after trying Roger's SD and the one at RDV, it was surprisingly light and comfortable! On the flip side, no pun intended, the 14060 has a clean look. Don't know what to do... I also just got the 14060 serviced so don't want to really give it up. I'm going to go to Van Rjkes this Friday along with Pete to check out pricing for used SDs. May I get advice from y'all on what you'd do? Thanks, Vernon __________________ I'm just a cook...

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7 November 2006, 01:08 PM	#7
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Thanks Mike, CJ for your thoughts. I have a feeling that I need to save up for an SD and keep the 14060. Ed, you're not making it easy on me __________________ I'm just a cook...

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roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Good idea, I'll drop by to visit Nezam's. __________________ I'm just a cook...

7 November 2006, 12:49 PM	#3
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Well, I think the SD has a clean utilitarian look in keeping with the "tool watch" tradition. It's certainly a watch that has a special history and the 3135 movement is a rock hard piece of equiment. I think barring a nice 5513 I'd be tempted to go for it.

7 November 2006, 12:54 PM	#5
Mrdi Banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Posts: 3,478	pop off the cyclops

7 November 2006, 02:13 PM	#9
wonghonchung Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 148	Don't go to Van Rijk. Both me and Roger can go on a very long rant about that, as Roger succinctly said they have a "No Chink Policy", which I frankly agree with, Anyways you will pay a lot more than you need to, and you will get ripped off if you trade in, they won't give you much for your 14060, but charge an exhorbitant amount for it when they sell it. I recommend going on Timezone, you'll find a much better deal, and you'll get a lot more than you would from Van Rijk. Or I would recommend you go to Nezam's place.

7 November 2006, 10:41 PM	#12
jac67 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: John Location: Australia Watch: Me Posts: 1,950	Re: SD Hello Vernon I love the SD as well as the no date Sub. Difficult question. The best you can do is keep the Sub and then buy a SD funds permitting. But if I had the choice of one it would definitely be the SD. COSC rated, date, no cyclops, HEV. It's got it all. I don't know if we are allowed to, so moderators please delete this sentence if required. There's a guy on TURF called Stryke (real name Gil) who is the Forum Moderator who also sells a lot of new watches at great prices. Hope this helps. John.

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8 November 2006, 01:35 AM	#14
RogerF "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Real Name: Duh! Location: Toronto Canada Watch: a gonna do? Posts: 2,573	Nezam has one in stock I beleive. Like Thomas said stay away from Van Riik, they have a no chinks policy there that really gets my blood boiling. I went in there with the full intention of spending $5000+ but was treated like a theif when my phone rang and I picked it up. The sales woman yelled at me to turn it off. I asked why and she said I could be setting them up to rob them. WTF?????? I later learned that they were robbed a few times before and now treat asians like that.

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