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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok?
Yes, no issues 1,015 70.10%
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine 61 4.21%
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) 372 25.69%
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Old 1 May 2024, 11:12 PM   #1
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wheel in watch vs sparepart
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Old 2 May 2024, 02:27 AM   #2
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Wow. What is the context behind this wheel train?

Which part number is it and was it recommended by Rolex as a fix?

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Old 2 May 2024, 04:11 AM   #3
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Wow. What is the context behind this wheel train?

Which part number is it and was it recommended by Rolex as a fix?
In for service, it was about 7 years old.
No recommendation just a discovery i made being curious and looking for wear on parts and also comparing old and new parts.

There is information that the pallet bridge needs epilame because of migration of lubricant from dial side, interfering with the pallet fork, this information came a couple of years ago and was updated information for many calibers(3135, 2235 etc) and not exclusively for 32.
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Old 2 May 2024, 03:27 AM   #4
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This photo (or one very similar) has been published before and contributed to the lack of lubrication theory that has been bantered about these last few years. You can see a groove worn at the top of the pivot... (I believe that is the correct term for the portion that inserts into a jewell).

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Old 2 May 2024, 03:58 AM   #5
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This photo (or one very similar) has been published before and contributed to the lack of lubrication theory that has been bantered about these last few years. You can see a groove worn at the top of the pivot... (I believe that is the correct term for the portion that inserts into a jewell).

-Sheldon
I think it was the second wheel picture you mean?
Yes there is a groove in the pivot (normal spot for wear)
But the design of the axle is also changed, maybe just a production
change or its for something.
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This photo (or one very similar) has been published before and contributed to the lack of lubrication theory that has been bantered about these last few years. You can see a groove worn at the top of the pivot... (I believe that is the correct term for the portion that inserts into a jewell).

-Sheldon
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Old 2 May 2024, 10:39 AM   #7
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This guy is member since 10 hours with 5 posts all in this thread
Maybe he knows Kung Fu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vMO3XmNXe4
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Old 2 May 2024, 12:42 PM   #8
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Most interesting
Thanks for sharing.
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Old 2 May 2024, 07:43 PM   #9
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread

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Not at all Dirt … without any more technical details. The poster also does not provide any background about his expertise.

Much more interesting, at least to me, are caliber data measured for 2023 and new 2024 watches with 32xx calibers. This was and still is the objective for this thread, to collect facts and "real data" - look back at post #1 in this thread.

There are enough 32xx nonsense threads on the internet, including this site. All above of course is only my personal view.

As soon as you reach 300 posts in this thread the management should consider to grant you the TRF Ig Nobel Prize.
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Old 2 May 2024, 08:42 PM   #10
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Not at all Dirt … without any more technical details. The poster also does not provide any background about his expertise.

Much more interesting, at least to me, are caliber data measured for 2023 and new 2024 watches with 32xx calibers. This was and still is the objective for this thread, to collect facts and "real data" - look back at post #1 in this thread.

There are enough 32xx nonsense threads on the internet, including this site. All above of course is only my personal view.

As soon as you reach 300 posts in this thread the management should consider to grant you the TRF Ig Nobel Prize.
Once there is enough, can you summarize the 2923 vs 2024 data?
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Old 3 May 2024, 12:15 AM   #11
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Once there is enough, can you summarize the 2923 vs 2024 data?
Yes, but more timegrapher data is needed in this thread. There are not many members who do such measurements in a systematic and useful way (no criticism!).

Below is a very good example how to track a 32xx watch using a timegrapher. A Submariner 126610LV, caliber 3235, purchased in 05/2023, measured in 07/2023 and 01/2024. Watch and measurements from EasyE



This 3235 watch, only about 7 months old in 01/2024, obviously had too low amplitudes in all three vertical positions.
The movement issue was already visible directly after purchase! BUT ONLY WITH A TIMEGRAPHER.
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